The Tenant Experience Network (TEN) features leading commercial real estate (CRE) professionals in conversation with HILO Co-founder & CEO, David Abrams. Each episode cuts through the ever-evolving, and sometimes polarizing opinions around the future of the workplace, and what it means for the importance of buildings and tenant experience.

From hybrid solutions to newly imagined spaces and amenities, TEN covers the latest thinking and insights on all things property and tech from people in the trenches: building owners, property managers, tenants and leading PropTech founders.

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Creating social and economic value in CRE with Glenn Way | President | GWL Realty Advisors

Season 6 / Episode 2 / 38:56
In this episode, Glenn shares his thoughts on connectivity and creating both economic and social value through technology, hospitality, and innovative building design. If you’re curious about how buildings can generate value, foster connection, and leverage technology to meet the demands of the future, this episode is one you won’t want to miss.

Creating social and economic value in CRE with Glenn Way | President | GWL Realty Advisors

Season 6 / Episode 2 / 38:56
In this episode, Glenn shares his thoughts on connectivity and creating both economic and social value through technology, hospitality, and innovative building design. If you’re curious about how buildings can generate value, foster connection, and leverage technology to meet the demands of the future, this episode is one you won’t want to miss.

TEN Season 5 Highlights

In season 5 of the Tenant Experience Network (TEN) podcast, host David Abrams has had 15 inspiring conversations with some exceptional leaders at the forefront of innovation and technology in commercial real estate. Have a listen to some of our favorite clips.

AI, data, and the future of sustainable real estate with Gary Chance | CEO | Nantum AI

Season 5 / Episode 12 / 37:17
In this episode, Gary shares how his team is utilizing the latest technology and data to write better algorithms that save real estate tenants and owners more money, energy, and ultimately, to provide a better indoor experience overall. If you’re interested in AI and the impact it’s having on the built world, this episode is for you.

Ryan Speers | Partner & COO | Workhaus | The future of work is flexible

Season 5 / Episode 7 / 41:20
In this episode, we learn that Ryan’s business is at the forefront of the hospitality and customer experience conversations that are happening as CRE continues to up its game on this front by offering essential amenities to help drive user engagement and enjoyment. Tune in to learn more about Ryan’s perspective on Workhaus being a tech-enabled business versus a technology business.

Lisa Davidson | Vice Chairman | Savills North America | An inspiring journey from Tenant Rep to Proptech investor

Season 5 / Episode 5 / 46:17
In this episode, Lisa sheds light on key market drivers influencing real estate decisions, such as the rise of amenities and spec suites. She describes the future of work as “accommodating employees with great space.” The impact that unique community spaces have on potential tenants as they are touring prospective spaces is something else she sees in the market.

Rob Kumer | CEO | KingSett Capital | Trends and success strategies in CRE

Season 5 / Episode 4 / 53:34
In this episode, Rob shares his 3 pillars for success in the office category and speaks about the importance of experience and the technological advances impacting all asset classes. KingSett is very focused on decarbonization, and energy management including deep water cooling and implementing new lighting systems.

Celebrating 60 Conversations on TEN

Hard to believe that it’s been over 3 years since we launched the Tenant Experience Network (TEN) podcast as a way to connect with people at a time when we all felt isolated. Host and HILO Co-founder and CEO, David Abrams, has had the opportunity to interview some amazing people from leading CRE and Proptech companies, and in real-time, share what’s really happening in buildings and communities across North America. David wanted the program to provide a true pulse on what was actually going on in the industry, across all asset classes, without being sensational or polarizing, as is often found in the media.

Peter Riguardi | Chairman & President, New York Region | JLL | Lessons in selling CRE in NYC

Season 4 / Episode 15 / 28:35
In this episode, Peter says he seeing an increase in people coming back to the workplace and occupiers using the office to competitively attract talent. He has also noticed a significant push to the best office buildings, regardless of their location. With 460 million square feet of office space in NYC, only time will tell how much space use will have to change.

Brett Miller | CEO | Canderel | Embracing the future of work and experience

Season 4 / Episode 13 / 40:11
In this episode, Brett shares details on Canderel’s new Okkto initiative, which offers a very exciting suite of innovative workplace hospitality experiences for the users of their spaces. We discussed how technology can offer better connectivity to their customers and help to better understand their needs.

TEN Podcast guest Shimon Shkury

Shimon Shkury | President & Founder | Ariel Property Advisors | Building on great partnerships for success

Season 4 / Episode 12 / 39:53
In this episode, Shimon shares insights on the current state of the market as well as his beliefs on the opportunities ahead of us. He has a great read on what building operators need to do to create more compelling workplaces and suggested the idea of forming a Board, consisting of both building operators and the occupants, to come together and discuss emerging issues in CRE.

Gary Phillips | Managing Director | Eastdil Secured | Insights into the office market in New York

Season 4 / Episode 11 / 34:08
In this episode, we learn that Gary has been exposed to all asset classes but was able to share his insights into the office category and the challenges that it is facing, with consideration to the different classes within the overall office class. Gary provided a glimpse into the current state of the buy and sell market, as well as the new players that are entering the field to take advantage of current opportunities.

Lee Odess

Lee Odess | CEO | Access Control Executive Brief | Unlocking the world of access control

Season 4 / Episode 9 / 40:34
In this episode, we learn that Lee sees the world of access control from the perspective of the end-user and how it contributes to a better customer experience. Lee has always had a focus on community building and sees his role in the building access space as doing just that. He believes the past has helped inform the present and should not be overlooked when reviewing the evolution of property technology.

Antonia Cardone | Americas Lead | Total Workplace | Cushman & Wakefield | The value of being together in the workplace

Season 4 / Episode 1 / 41:46
In this episode, Antonia shares a number of reasons people want to be in the office. In the past, being in the office was about having access to “stuff”, whereas today the new emphasis is on socialization and collaboration. She suggests that while amenities and environment are important, the “value” of being together is the real driver of spending time in the office.

Sara Tabita | Community Experience Manager | Granite Properties | Facilitating workplace needs through tenant partnerships

Season 3 / Episode 21 / 27:02
In this episode, Sara acknowledges the shift from office space to office experience, and the need for buildings to provide their tenants with unique and memorable experiences that will also foster a sense of community. She stresses the importance of communication to help inform customers of any changes that may be necessary to deliver a better workplace experience.

Rita Tené Ellison | Associate Director | T. Dallas Smith & Company | Putting customers first in CRE

Season 3 / Episode 20 / 22:20
In this episode, Rita explains that access to local amenities is becoming more of a driving factor in real estate decisions, causing smart landlords to become more attentive to tenant needs, and respond with appropriate programming. With a “client-first” mentality, her firm has maintained a consistent approach throughout the pandemic in responding to the evolving needs of its customers.

Jamie Petten | President & Executive Director | Kanata North Business Association | Connecting the community in Canada’s largest technology park

Season 3 / Episode 19 / 31:09
In this episode, Jamie shares that in order to attract and retain talent, a big part of the conversation is adding new opportunities to live and play at Kanata North Technology Park, and making new investments to enhance physical workspaces. Jamie is enthusiastic about the role that HILO will play in helping to connect all the partners in the park and promote all of the park’s activities.

Rasheq Zarif | Co-founder & COO | ReWyre | Helping ReWyre the built world and future-proof buildings

Season 3 / Episode 14 / 26:37
In this episode, Rasheq shares his belief that the only way to optimize real estate again is to challenge building operators to create better workplace environments that people will want to spend time in. Rasheq views Tenant Experience, Safety and Security, and Climate Change as three main components of the Proptech ecosystem that are driving demand for emerging technology solutions.

Michael Beckerman | CEO | CREtech | Putting a spotlight on tech and innovation in the built world

Season 3 / Episode 13 / 36:12
In this episode, Michael shares his career journey from public relations for commercial real estate to launching a small news aggregator that has grown into something much bigger, now CREtech. Michael saw an opportunity to put a spotlight on innovation in the built world and create a global audience of startups, commercial real estate operators and venture capitalists.

Amy Carroll | President | Trademark Properties | Is Commercial Real Estate a dinosaur?

Season 3 / Episode 12 / 33:35
In this episode, Amy discusses the need for buildings to be more competitive, especially when stacked up against newer construction. Technology has been focused on the operations side of the business, but it’s not enough. With HR managers now involved in every real estate decision, now is the time to tap into what is most important – delivering what tenants really want.

Steven Rotter | Vice Chairman | JLL | Why every deal matters and now is the time to invest

Season 3 / Episode 10 / 36:40
In this episode, Steven shares his strong belief that businesses will continue to see NYC as an important location to have a physical presence, albeit with different use cases and purposes. Interestingly, a majority of the deals that are getting done today are with buildings that are offering new, or expanded services and amenities to attract new tenants.

Bob Knakal | Chairman NY Investment Sales | JLL | A titan in NY CRE shares his story and insights

Season 3 / Episode 9 / 42:36
In this episode, Bob shares his personal experience working through the pandemic and how his own thinking has evolved and changed. Bob believes that working in the office is more fun and hopes that people will continue to find their way back to the office and rediscover the many ways in which the commute can provide valuable time to read, listen to audiobooks or your favorite podcast.

TEN | Highlights

The Tenant Experience Network podcast has featured many incredible guests who have shared valuable insights on the future of the workplace, enhancing tenant experience and the role of office buildings. Enjoy these highlights from some of the most prominent CRE thought leaders that have joined us on TEN.

Chad Griffiths | Industrial Real Estate Broker, Investor and Host of the Industrial Real Estate Podcast | People are the true asset in buildings

Season 3 / Episode 8 / 32:29
In this episode, Chad shares his belief that buildings can be a significant determinant in making the physical workspace more appealing. Placing an emphasis on what tenants want can have a direct correlation to the value of that building. We both agree that people are the true asset in buildings, and they need to be engaged in a more meaningful way.

David Sturner | Principal & Senior Managing Director | Banyan Street Capital | ‘Adapt or die’ to keep up with CRE market changes

Season 3 / Episode 4 / 35:46
In this episode, David shares how the pandemic affected Banyan’s business and created an opportunity to pivot by converting office spaces to residential. David firmly believes in the adage ‘adapt or die’ because he understands that markets will change and we must continually be thinking about what needs to be done in order to keep up.

TEN Season 3 Trailer

Season 3 / Episode 0 / 1:23
The Tenant Experience Network (TEN) features leading commercial real estate (CRE) professionals in conversation with HILO Co-founder & CEO, David Abrams. Each episode cuts through the ever-evolving and sometimes polarizing opinions around the future of the workplace.

HILO TEN Tenant Experience Network Podcast

Season Two | Trailer | 1:13

Season 2 / Episode 0
Join us for season 2 as we continue our conversations with leading CRE professionals who all have something to say about the impact of technology on tenant experience in the built world.