
The Tenant Experience Network (TEN) features leading commercial real estate (CRE) professionals in conversation with HILO Co-founder & CEO, David Abrams. Each episode cuts through the ever-evolving, and sometimes polarizing opinions around the future of the workplace, and what it means for the importance of buildings and tenant experience.
From hybrid solutions to newly imagined spaces and amenities, TEN covers the latest thinking and insights on all things property and tech from people in the trenches: building owners, property managers, tenants and leading PropTech founders.
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Amy Carroll | President | Trademark Properties | Is Commercial Real Estate a dinosaur?
Season 3 / Episode 12 / 33:35
In this episode, Amy discusses the need for buildings to be more competitive, especially when stacked up against newer construction. Technology has been focused on the operations side of the business, but it’s not enough. With HR managers now involved in every real estate decision, now is the time to tap into what is most important – delivering what tenants really want.

Josh Berger | VP | Norman Bobrow & Co | Ping pong or conference rooms? What do tenants really want?
Season 3 / Episode 11 / 33:15
In this episode, Josh shares his views on the return to the physical workplace and on the Manhattan real estate market. I loved how Josh expressed his learned belief that ‘there is no one size fits all,’ and that every situation is unique. Savvy landlords see that helping their customers to attract and retain tenants is now a priority.

Steven Rotter | Vice Chairman | JLL | Why every deal matters and now is the time to invest
Season 3 / Episode 10 / 36:40
In this episode, Steven shares his strong belief that businesses will continue to see NYC as an important location to have a physical presence, albeit with different use cases and purposes. Interestingly, a majority of the deals that are getting done today are with buildings that are offering new, or expanded services and amenities to attract new tenants.

Bob Knakal | Chairman NY Investment Sales | JLL | A titan in NY CRE shares his story and insights
Season 3 / Episode 9 / 42:36
In this episode, Bob shares his personal experience working through the pandemic and how his own thinking has evolved and changed. Bob believes that working in the office is more fun and hopes that people will continue to find their way back to the office and rediscover the many ways in which the commute can provide valuable time to read, listen to audiobooks or your favorite podcast.

Becky Hanner, BOMA Fellows Chair and Principal at Commercial Asset Services | The customization of tenant amenities and ROI | 24:16
Season 2 / Episode 4
In this episode, we will learn about Becky’s journey to her current role at Commercial Asset Services, where she combines her early experience working in accounting, with her training in property and asset management.

Steve Simoni, Founder of Bbot | How human interactions in CRE can create new social networks | 24:32
Season 2 / Episode 3
In this episode, we will learn about Steve’s journey to his current role at Bbot, where he combines his experience from working in the navy as a nuclear engineer, with his previous learning as a first-time founder.

Jaime McKenna, Managing Director, Group Head of Real Estate at Fengate | Why sensors & data are worthy of technology investment | 27:31
Season 2 / Episode 2
In this episode of TEN, Jaime McKenna joins host David Abrams and talks about the career path that has led to her current Managing Director position at Fengate, where she regularly applies her extensive experience in finance and investment.

Caleb Parker, Founder of Bold | Putting customers first when it comes to CRE | 24:18
Season 2 / Episode 1
In this episode, we will learn about Caleb’s journey to his current position at Bold, where he combines his learning from his experience as a founder and executive in the flexible workspace industry.

Season Two | Trailer | 1:13
Season 2 / Episode 0
Join us for season 2 as we continue our conversations with leading CRE professionals who all have something to say about the impact of technology on tenant experience in the built world.

Lorri Rowlandson, Senior Vice President, BGIS | How technology drives data insights | 33:00
Season 1 / Episode 10
In this episode, we will learn about Lorri’s journey to her current position at BGIS, where she builds on the intersection of real estate operations and innovation through strategic thought leadership.

Annie Rinker, Director, Office of Innovation, Hines | How tech is changing Tenant Experience | 38:02
Season 1 / Episode 9
In this episode, we will learn about Annie’s journey to her current position at Hines, where she builds on the intersection of co-working and traditional commercial real estate by exploring ways to drive value.

David Popler, Managing Director, Solutions Development, JLL | Using data to elevate client service | 35:11
Season 1 / Episode 8
In this episode, we will learn about David’s journey to his current position at JLL, where he combines his learning from such roles as Chief Revenue Officer to Vice President of Business Development.

Matt Knight, PropTech Investor | How tech will get us back to the workplace | 29:10
Season 1 / Episode 7
In this episode, we will learn about Matt’s journey to his current role as investor and board member, where he combines his learning from early days in private equity, to becoming a “PropTech nerd”.

Kay Sargent, Sr. Principal, Director of WorkPlace, HOK | Tech-enabled environments & doing what you love | 31:51
Season 1 / Episode 6
In this episode, we will learn about Kay’s journey to her current position at HOK, where she applies her expertise in workplace design and strategy issues to create thoughtful solutions for her clients.